Nabbed a Robber!!! This is a must READ thread.

[meanjoe]

Well nobody else has posted it yet so i'll do my best.

Mathew, Greg, and myself were riding CT today. At the end of our first lap we regrouped at the top of the hill before the parking lot. All of the sudden we heard a loud bang to which Mathew replies "that sounded like a window breaking". We hurry down the hill to find some skinny little dude fishing around in Mathews jeep, which now has a missing back window. Mathew threw out a few choice words and rushed the guy. He was a skinny dude and wasn't carrying a weapon so i knew we were good. Mathew & Greg hold the guy against my truck and i called 911. I started to rummage through the guys pockets to see if he had a weapon and about the time i decided to take out his wallet he makes a half hearted attempt to get away. The 3 of us were pumped up already so he didn't get far. It was so much like a cops episode it was silly. The guys used all of the lame excuses just like the fools on COPs. Anywho, there is plenty more to the story but I don't have time right now. Long story short I decided to grab a few quick shots of the guy with the camera phone. Sorry for the poor quality but I hope you laugh as hard as we did.

BTW Mathew sorry about your window.

[Motobacon]

Where to start. Adam, Greg, and I were just finishing our first lap and we stopped to regroup when we heard a very loud "pop!" I immediately new that it was the sound of someones window being knocked out. We mounted our bikes and headed down the short hill into the parking lot, where we were faced with a man about 5'4" with his arm stuck in the back of my Jeep (of course the window had been broken).

We stealthily (yelling and cussing) rode up to the man and then I dismounted quickly and grabbed him by the arms and screamed, "Put your hands behind your back and he is a cop (Adam, which he is not) and I have a gun in my vehicle (which I did not)." I did not know what else to say. So, after I grabbed him Adam and Greg quickly came to my assistance.

Everything was ok until we tried to take his ID out of his wallet. He then begun to try to fight away from us and flee. Not going to happen is what we all must have thought, because we all three took him straight to the ground. One of the highlights was when I tied his shoes together so he would not run.

Needless to say we were continually calling in names and reiterating how stupid he was. It may have not been nice, but at least we were not violent with him. When the police finally arrived they could not find the parking lot, so I rode up the hill and flagged them down. Now this is when it get funny. As I rode back down the hill with the police following me I looked up to see Greg on top of the perpetrator and Adam taking pictures with his phone.

It was fortunate that I was not the only one that found humor in this. The police also found this quite funny. They even took a couple of pictures for us. Anyway, the man apparently had his dog in the car. When the police went to get him out he took off running into the woods. So in one day the man lost his dog, his freedom, and his dignity. O'well a small price to pay for a criminal!!:lol:

[Ricky D]

Good job guys!! :thumb: Our own CrimeStoppers crew. I'll just assume Matthew was putting the beat down on the little punk while you weren't snapping pics. :boxing:

That's Awesome Matthew! Sorry to hear about the window though.

[TryFour]

Holy Crap! Was this at CT? Way to go crime busters!

[RMB_mike]

Which trail was it?

It sucks that your window got broken but it's cool that you got to nail him. I would have paid a large sum of money to be there to hear the names you all were calling him. :lol: I'm very glad for you three that the perp didn't have a weapon of some sort.

[BikeSwimmer]

Wow, I bet the adrenaline is still running on high! All I can say is wow! This is very unfortunate, but great job at catching the jerk! What an idiot! Did you figure out what he was after, Matt's extra bike shorts, mtn bike videos? I can only imagine what the police thought when they saw Greg over the perp. :lol: Sorry about your window. Glad that you guys were not hurt.

[TryFour]

As I said on Motobacons thread, way to go crime busters! That is one **** of a story. I have never had any problems at CT, but I have seen some shady characters down there. That sucks about his window though.

[mike neumeyer]

bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you!!

Biker Cops is filmed on location with the men in lycra spandex at chickasaw trace. All names were changed to protect the innocent!! Its like a true episode of pacific blue. Sweet collar boys, too bad Danno wasnt there!!!

Mike

[meanjoe]

Just to add to the shame...the man pissed his pants during the maylay. I'm glad we were able to keep are cool and not steal any cheap shots (other than words). I don't think that i've ever been so mean to another human being.

The dude used every excuse and stupid line that we've all seen on cops. "I didn't do it" "Ouch you're hurting me. let me up i won't try to run again"

The cops found the phone number of a parole officer in his wallet so he may be facing some hard time(good). One officer even said there had been a rash of B & E's (that's cop talk..LOL) near by and perhaps this was the guy.

It must take some serious huevos to bust a window out with a shovel in the middle of the day in a public place. This could not have gone any better. Had we been a few minutes earlier he may not have been there yet and got away with it. Had we been seconds earlier he would have had a shovel in his hand (real bad). Had we been much later he would have robbed all of us and got away with it. To be honest we were so pumped and caught up in the moment that i really don't think any of us really thought that he could have had a weapon of some kind. I'm just glad it all went well and nobody was hurt.

Adam

[Chewieez]

I admit I was eagerly awaiting someone else to post about this first!! I figured my post wouldn't mean much without some Pics!
Those pictures turned out great Adam!

I can't believe how I was 'posing' like I was in a freakin' photoshoot or something. I should of had some hard look on my face... oh well, it still makes me laugh out loud! Even my fiancée got a good laugh. She said "oh, he's just a little guy!"

But wow, yea, definitely not the trip to CT that I was expecting!! Kinda through off our race training a little bit, can we add that to the case against this guy. What do you think loss of training time is worth? I bet atleast a cool $10,000 in damages right!?

I don't know who was more susprised though, us or him.... I think he was!!! He didn't know what he was in for when he saw us riding towards him. He didn't even try to run or anything. He just backed away and was like, "I didn't do it!!"..... then that turned into..."I'll pay for your window" .... and after we had to tackle him and hold him down on the ground, he started whining about his back. He could of been standing up all comfortable if he didn't think he could get away from us. Even the cop asked him when handcuffing him if he had a bad back. He replied "Yes" and the Cop replied "I guess you shouldn't be out breaking into cars then, eh?!" It was classic!!

I was secretly hoping that the cop was going to pull out some tiny bag of crack or something from his pocket. Then it would have [i]really[i] been like a COPS show!! haha unfortunately, all he had was chapstick.

I'm glad we were there when we were and that we were all so quick to act. It was pretty sweet how it went down..... just sucks hard that you had to lose your window Matt! I hope the repair is affordable!!

oh and man screw the racing rush... I'm gonna start catching robbers instead... it was kind of a let down to go ride the trail after that experience!! haha :big_grin:

Good job guys....hopefully he stays in jail and you get a speedy trail Matt!

NMB = 1 Stupid crooks = 0

[Chewieez]

Just to add to the shame...the man pissed his pants during the maylay. I'm glad we were able to keep are cool and not steal any cheap shots (other than words). I don't think that i've ever been so mean to another human being.


yea it's hard to know what you're gonna do in the situation until you're put in it. I think we all handled it well. We were firm but courteous at first, until he tried to squirm away. Then we were just making conversation after that.... with his head in the dirt. :big_grin:

That was one of the other funny things the Cops said. They asked us... "Did ya hit him?" and not in an accusing way... in a more curious way. We answered "No".... but then started thinking, 'Maybe we should have!!' hahahah but no, I don't think we should have and I'm glad we didn't. I know everything will be simplier now that we didn't.

Mathew's second great line... (after the "Adam's a cop and I have a gun in my car") was when the dude was complaining about his back.

Perp: "Ow, my back hurts, I have a bad back!"
Mathew: "Awww, well I have a bad window now so I don't want to hear it!"

[Jason-G]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w30/jason-glover/bounty.jpg



Great job catching the bad guys. Sorry about your window Moto. Great pics Adam.

[meanjoe]

That is funny! we already talked about having a Caption This or a Photoshop contest the photo of Greg holding the guy down.

The the games begin.

Adam

[Motobacon]

:hi: :hi:

That is great!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

[David Moore]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w30/jason-glover/bounty.jpg

Great job catching the bad guys. Sorry about your window Moto. Great pics Adam.

This picture is a MUST for the NMB main page!!!

Awesome stuff, except for the window of course.
I echo Mike N's statement about danno needing to be there:lol:

[Motobacon]

I forgot to add that I had to go back to the police station to show them the damage to my hatch when the officer asked if I knew the robber. I of course told him no. He then explained that he, "the robber", said that he busted my window out in retaliation. I of course asked for what. He exclaimed that "he" said that "we", him and I, ride at CT often and that one time I ran him off the trail and he was mad about it. So that is why he busted my window. I then laughed and explained that I am sure he doesn't even have a MTB bike and if he did he would not be able to keep up with us. The officer agreed!! Crazy, at least he admitted doing it.:thumb:

[Ron Mexico]

Fellas,
What a day! Wish I coulda been there to see all that.:twitcy:

I admire the fact that you refrained from physically harming him. If I saw someone breaking into my car, I would probably lose all sanity and someone would be getting hurt! :boxing: :nono: :boxing: :nono:

That picture of Greg is an instant classic, for sure a chance of a lifetime photo op. One of the most laid back people I know, holding down a criminal with his bare hands, grinning ear to ear. Good stuff!

Mathew, will your insurance cover your window or is it even worth the trouble?

[meanjoe]

I forgot to add that I had to go back to the police station to show them the damage to my hatch when the officer asked if I knew the robber. I of course told him no. He then explained that he, "the robber", said that he busted my window out in retaliation. I of course asked for what. He exclaimed that "he" said that "we", him and I, ride at CT often and that one time I ran him off the trail and he was mad about it. So that is why he busted my window. I then laughed and explained that I am sure he doesn't even have a MTB bike and if he did he would not be able to keep up with us. The officer agreed!! Crazy, at least he admitted doing it.:thumb:

When i told my buddy chris (assistant DA in Clarksville) he said the guy must have been in the system a while because he concocted a story admitting to vandalism (misdemeanor) so as not to be charged with aggravated something or other (felony). Let's hope he doesn't get off easy.

Adam

[kindacreeky]

you probably saved some others from another break-in. I hate to say you guys look like you are enjoying the glory of the moment.

[Uzzi]

I don't think I have ever laughed this hard at a post on NMB. What is CLASSIC is that Greg made the photo his AVATAR! Well, this will certainly get nominated at the NMB awards in December.

[meanjoe]

you probably saved some others from another break-in. I hate to say you guys look like you are enjoying the glory of the moment.

It was kinda fun. I couldn't help but enjoy it. I'm gonna quit my job tomorrow and be a cop. lol

[Chewieez]

So I edited the photos a bit to give them some more luster.

Adam, your phone takes pretty good pics! Much better quality than mine! I just messed with the colors and the contrasts...

(We told the Cops we'd be posting this pictures. Hopefully they make their way to the site! and better yet, post up! :big_grin: )


and yes Bob, we were definitely living in the moment once the cops showed up. We all had a good laugh about it.

[Lefty Scott]

I can't remember the last time I read something as entertaining as this! Great job guys!

[dirtdog]

I think these guys should all get YELLOW SOCKS!
You Guys Rock! Sux about the window, but pretty amazing you were all around to catch the SOB.

[TNcaveman]

HU - RAH

MTB'ers on adrenalin. I bet ya'lls heart beats were up there. If Robert was there, we could see a graph of the RUSH !!

If he's on parole, he'll likely atleast get the remainder of his sentence.

Steve


PS - Next time this happens, strip him down, duck tape him to a tree, and cover his body in honey, peanut butter, or any other sticky yummy stuff that a wild animal would be attracted to. :stupid_me: Oops - scrap that - it would violate his rights.

[BigRingTravis]

That was FREAKIN' SWEET!!!

Do you have a team at HC..?

And I heard a guy at Lock4 got his truck shot up - Serioulsly!


That post was awesome - I can't wait to show you all off in the morning!!!

[Paddlechris]

Man I am glad you guys are not hurt.. but man I agree with Curtis.. Probably would have wanted to hit him.. (I am small so it would not have hurt him :lol: )


Anyway I laughed so hard I got tears in my eye..

Greg is all GQ holding the guys hands behind his back.. AWSOME...

C

[billwilliams70]

I can't remember the last time I read something as entertaining as this! Great job guys!
:ditto2:
This is good stuff guys, way to go!!!

Later.

[Jmac]

That is Awesome!! (except for the busted window). Great job on catching that POS! :thumb:

[danno]

When Matt was telling me about this on the phone, I was in tears... I really, really wish I could have been there. This is one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time... good job on the take down, and for not beating the guy senseless. :thumb:

Thankfully, this dood was a little weasel and didn't have a knife or a gun he was willing to use... I'm really glad you guys weren't hurt.

That being said... the pictures are HILARIOUS, this should be on the news and on every MTB forum on the net!!

Matt said a line on the phone "How's it feel to be taken down by a bunch of guys in spandex?!?" Classic. I probably would have wet myself along with the little-robber-that-couldn't, from laughter.

Great job guys... I wouldn't feel too guilty about being sort of mean to him, he unfortunately made that call for himself when he decided to smash windows with shovels.

So... umm, are you guys for hire? I mean, for personal protection.. I might need your services for the early morning/late evening rides at HC... :lol:

[DirtDiver]

awsome guys! busting criminals is every man's fantasy, and the absolutely sweet pictures makes it even better.
bikers 1, pathetic criminals 0. :first:

[ericw]

After just riding a loop, I would have been tempted to rub my sweaty shorts all over his face if that happened to me. Either that or kick his a$$.

[Orange]

Too funny! Chewie, I was wondering why your avatar changed this morning.

"Book 'em, Danno!"

[Daniel]

Wow, that is unbelievable.... Good job guys.

"Ill-gotten gain gets you nowhere; an honest life is immortal"
Pr 10:2

[Oney]

:thumb: Awsome!

[Motobacon]

So today Reed, myself and ...mmm sorry I am bad with names anyway, were going to do a couple of race pace laps in which we did. However, after the first lap we stopped for a second to re-group and pick up another rider (Tryon) when I looked up and coming down the hill to the parking lot was the vehicle the "robber" was driving. I thought to myself "You have got to be kidding me!" As the car rolled to a stop a young girl (16) and and older lady exited the vehicle. To make a long story short it was the "robbers" daughter and ex-wife. They approached me to beg me to drop the charges. In my short 30 min. conversation I found out that the guy had been in prison for a long time and that his daughter has "mental problems." That was a quote from her mother. Anyway, welcome to the Jerry Springer show and that is all I have to say.:bangin: :crazy:

[Ron Mexico]

They didn't by any chance offer to pay you for the window did they?

[ericw]

F that. If he was in prison for a long time, he should have thought about that before breaking into cars.

[Uzzi]

Maybe if he's in prison then he won't be breaking into people's cars. If he hates prison so much, which does he continue to commit crimes? Who is sending him to prison? You or HIMSELF? Why didn't they talk to HIM about staying out of the big house? Some people don't need to be out of jail. I'd be mentally ill too if I had a dad like that.

Throw the book at that guy...never mind the hours of work it takes to EARN a car, muchless a nice one like Matthew has. Forget the guys absolute INCONSIDERATION (that's putting it mildly) to bust someones window just to try to fish out Matthews dirty spandex...forget the fact the guy is obviously a meth head or a crack head to be that desperate to do something that stupid! Throw the book at that guy.

[Jugodrax]

I say prosecute. I have no tolerance for thieves and a few others.

[TheSpackler]

I probably would have just beat the living christ out of the guy and let him go. My guess is that you'll never see a dime for your damages or the time wasted in prosecution, so making him pay for it in blood and bruises would've been to only way to recoupe any losses from the idiot.
On the other hand, it's a great story and a really good read. Good job with that guys. :thumb:

[TNcaveman]

Tonight - at the Team meeting - I heard (think it was Matt) that the guy was out on parole - he broke his parole and will be heading back until 2011 !! Glad they didn't let him go :thumb:


Steve


:beer:

[RedFSR]

Matthew,

Don't buy into their sob story. In fact, I need to talk to you because what they technically did is try to manipulate a witness which in the federal system is a pretty serious offense. With this being a state case, I'm not sure how serious witness tampering is but you need to talk to the DA about this case. I believe CT is Maury County. Because he came up with that bull ***t story about retaliation, you need to make sure anyone who saw him reaching inside your vehicle provides the DA and/or SO an affidavit with those details. Once he broke the plane of the outside of your vehicle, he burglarized it plain and simple.

Someone posted earlier that he was trying to confess to something less serious than burglary which is exactly what he did. Criminal mischief doesn't carry the weight that burglary does. How serious the charge for criminal mischief is depends on the dollar amount. If it were me (an leo and victim of burglaries) I would insist on the DA charging him with the most serious offense and not let him plea to a lesser crime. Especially if he violated his parole or probation. Most courts, even federal, will do anything for a guilty plea if it means they don't have to go to trial. Most burglars are substance abusers and will only continue their life of crime. His family should not have confronted you. Their sob story was bullcrap. Trust me. That itself needs to be reported.

Anyway, sorry this is so long. I just have no sympathy for people like that. I've had my vehicle and former house burglarized and it sucks.

If want or care to call me about it PM me or get with Reed for my number.

Good job to all who nabbed the turd.

Later,
John

[RedFSR]

In the time it took me to post all that, I noticed Steve's post that he violated his parole. He sure picked the wrong place and the wrong victim. Haha.:thumb:

[GRiD]

WOW...what a story!!!

It is a shame that our national/local park system has this problem always lurking in the shadows. Makes me want to buy a beat up truck just to go to trailheads.

I hope to see this story in the next MB Action Mag!!! You guys sent this story to them??

I bet his eyes got BIG :eek: when he saw you all charging down that hill on your bikes.!!!

That guy should rot in jail for as long as he has been in prison......

[Paddlechris]

Mathew...

Do not drop the charges... I agree with the others, I had my Jeep burglarized years ago, over the course of two months it was broken into 4 times then when the guy was caught the police told me he had thousands of dollars of stolen stuff, and had been in jail for the same thing before..

If he gets out again he will be right back there doing the same thing..

Sorry it falls on you but I would not listen to the guys fam.. I would also tell the police or DA that they aproached you..

L8

C

[Uzzi]

I probably would have just beat the living christ out of the guy and let him go. My guess is that you'll never see a dime for your damages or the time wasted in prosecution, so making him pay for it in blood and bruises would've been to only way to recoupe any losses from the idiot.
On the other hand, it's a great story and a really good read. Good job with that guys. :thumb:

Jason - I don't think there is any Christ in that guy to beat out of him!

[Motobacon]

I did contact the Maury Co. Sheriffs dep. and told them what happened with his family. They have instructed the family not to attempt to make any contact with me again. The court case is on Monday at 8:30. I am not dropping any charges, and he was charged with attempted burglary. When I called the sheriffs department yesterday they informed me that he had been in and out of that jail 4 to 5 times. So I am sure he is as career criminal. I found out through my own research on the internet that he was supposed to be on parole until 2011 so he did not even get close to making it. To bad so sad for him!

I have also sent 3 MTB magazines the story and I of course mentioned this website. So we will have to see what happens.

Thanks for all the advice on this issue. I am sure there will be many more posts after Monday's court appearance.

[RedFSR]

Good deal.

[encyclopediabrown]

Man, this is insane! I am totally w/ Ron Mexico on the restraint thing! Good for you. I think I would have gone insane and gotten myself in trouble.

I am going to have nightmares now about Chewieez "The dog" chasing me down and making me pee.

[kindacreeky]

for pursueing this to the end. my truck and another guy's vehicle were broken into at hc in november 2005. i was glad that at least one of these thieves got caught.

many years ago there was a rash of auto break-ins down at the take-out parking lot at the ocoee. some paddlers layed in wait for hours, then nabbed the single thief, a kid that was a druggy. the crime wave suddenly stopped.

that being said, let's be careful. these type of guys are frequently armed. it would not be worth being shot over. don't leave valuables in your car, either.

[David Moore]

Good for you Matthew for sticking to you guns and not dropping the charges.

BTW, if thats the guys ex-wife, what does she care anyways? Sheesh!!:stupid_me:
She must feed on the drama that he provides. Sadly, I know of others who've lived through some junk, who then finally escape it only to then reintroduce themselves to some other NEW "junk". Ugggh!!

Matthew, thanks for keeping us up on this mess of events!!!

[encyclopediabrown]

don't leave valuables in your car, either.


A couple of weeks ago I noticed a female bikers purse sitting in plain view in her front seat at HC! I couldn't believe it!

I have been paying off the homeless guy that wanders through the park - maybe he will look out for us :big_grin: maybe not :frown:

[Kermit]

The "Ex-wife" should worry more about the dog, than the criminal.

Great story guys.

[StumpyFan]

As usual, timing is everything! Way to go here guys - I'm just sorry about your rear window but thanks to you we won't have anyone else have this problem. At least not from this guy!

I had something similar happen to me when I lived in Memphis. I've got to say that having my hands around the guys throat as I was pulling him out of my car was quite some rush!

Stick to your guns on pressing charges and lock this SOB up. I'm sure the story about the mental problems with the daughter and ex wife were just as made up as him telling the cops that he knew you.

Too bad he didn't "accidentally" fall down and hit his head several times while waiting on the cops to get there.

Again, GREAT story!

[kindacreeky]

Matthew, I followed this story up until you were about to go to court. Then never heard what was the outcome.

[schaarschmidt]

Regarding the break-in.

The potential offenses could be vandalism and attempted burglary. The previous post regarding his hand breaking the plane of the vehicle is nonsense. He could have been attempting to climb into your car to commit more vandalism, such as taking a dump on your dashboard.

As others suggested, this suspect knows the system. A vandalism is a Class A misdemeanor, carrying a max 11 months and 29 days in the workhouse, assuming the replacement value of the window is less than $500. If it is over $500 (including installation and taxes) then it would be a felony. The level of felony depends on the value of damages. The attempted burglary would be a Class E felony, carrying 1-2, 2-4 or 4-6 years, depending on his previous felony record.

If he is on parole and he is convicted of a new offense then his parole will be violated. Even if not convicted it could be violated as the standard of proof at a hearing on a violation of parole is lower (preponderance of the evidence) than required at a trail (beyond a reasonable doubt).

Now the bonus news for you. If a person is convicted of a felony while on parole, TN law requires any new sentence imposed to be served consecutively to his parole violation. This means, assuming his is convicted, he will not start building time against the most recent felony charges until after he builds his original sentence for which he was granted parole.

But, wait, it gets better. Because he has reoffended prior to completing his parole, when he goes before the parole board in the future it is less likely that he will be granted parole as the parole board will be less likely to grant the same as they have to consider his "willingness to comply with terms of release". Clearly, committing new felony offenses while on parole indicates that heis a bad candidate in this regard.

Based on foiling him during the commission of the offense and your willingness to prosecute, I suspect that he will not be seen around CT for an extended period of time.

Good work.

--> J

[meanjoe]

He was convicted of Vandalism. The DA didn't act like he really wanted to pursue the Felony charge. The sentence was 11 months suspended. As to the parole stuff...I had a friend confirm that he was actually on parole. He also emailed a friend of his to make sure that the parole folks found out quick. Hopefully this guy won't be enjoying too many days of freedom before the parole folks get to him.

Watching the guy waltz right out of the court room really left me feeling a bit let down by the system. We caught this guy red handed. He didn't know Mathew from Adam(no pun intended). To even consider that that low life was there to vandalize anything is just stupid. Obviously he is down on his luck and looking for an easy solution. Hopefully he will get what's coming to him.

adam
crimefighter

[Chesca]

Man that sucks to know that someone busted in your window out at CT :eek: I've never heard of people having problems, so that's a bummer. Good job catching him tho! You guys are heros, I love how you had to take pics! hahaha, that must have been awesome for him :doh:

[schaarschmidt]

He was convicted of Vandalism. The DA didn't act like he really wanted to pursue the Felony charge. The sentence was 11 months suspended. As to the parole stuff...I had a friend confirm that he was actually on parole. He also emailed a friend of his to make sure that the parole folks found out quick. Hopefully this guy won't be enjoying too many days of freedom before the parole folks get to him.

adam
crimefighter

Adam:

Wow, only 11 months suspended sentence. Either the DA simply doesn't care or he was hoping to get the conviction so that the parole board could use it to violate this person's parole.

As for the suspended sentence, I hope the DA or the judge at least added as a term of release that he not return to CT during that period of time?

BTW, if you know this person's name you can look up his criminal history to confirm if the rumors of him being on parole are true.

http://www.tennesseeanytime.org/foil/search.jsp

--> J

[meanjoe]

Adam:

Wow, only 11 months suspended sentence. Either the DA simply doesn't care or he was hoping to get the conviction so that the parole board could use it to violate this person's parole.

As for the suspended sentence, I hope the DA or the judge at least added as a term of release that he not return to CT during that period of time?

BTW, if you know this person's name you can look up his criminal history to confirm if the rumors of him being on parole are true.

http://www.tennesseeanytime.org/foil/search.jsp

--> J
Oh he's on there. Michael Ross Miller is the name(it's public record now and it's been in the paper so I don't feel bad mentioning his name). That is how Mathew first found out the guy was on parole. The DA had no idea until Mathew mentioned it to him.(Matt i hope you don't mind me running through all of this...feel free to jump in). Honestly, i have a friend who is a Assistant DA and he was shocked by the actions of the DA in this case as well.

What really gets my goat is that when we caught the guy we took his wallet. Inside the wallet was a business card for a parole officer. We showed it to the cops and they STILL didn't know the guy was on parole on court day.

Adam
Crime fighter

[RMB_mike]

We showed it to the cops and they STILL didn't know the guy was on parole on court day.

Adam
Crime fighter

These weren't the officers you speak of, are they?

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f32/mike240z/sev_14reno911.jpg

[TNcaveman]

man - Maury county is the pits when it comes to the brightness of the light bulbs. What the heck is a "suspended sentence"? So did he just walk out and go home? What a dumb axx DA (wow - the same initials :twitcy: ) HE DID NOT KNOW THIS LOOSER WAS ON PAROLE?

You guys should have just duct taped him to a tree. I guess their jails are just too full for real criminals - just don't get caught with out your drivers licence if you are a legal citizen or if you skip a child support payment.

Steve - POed in the Juliet

:bash:

PS - The DA should be in the slammer if this idiot breaks into a house with people in it next!!!

[Chewieez]

I think there is more to the story than is being told.

I'd like to wait for Mathew to come give his report.

Basically there were decisions to be made, and compromises were chosen. We were told ANY charge made would revoke his parole in Williamson County, which should lead to atleast a year in prison. He was also sentenced to pay Mathew $$ for his window and for the three of us missing work. If he doesn't pay this, they said he would spend a year in jail. Hopefully he pays the $$, but if not, hopefully he sits in jail as well, while dreaming of the spandex clad men that put him there. :big_grin:

[Paddlechris]

while dreaming of the spandex clad men that put him there. :big_grin:

This alone should make him pay... :lol: :lol: :lol:

C

[meanjoe]

This dude was seriously about a buck 25 soak and wet. I'm sure he had a hard time in prison last time. Hopefully it will be worse this time. No doubt he'll be somebody's girlfriend.

Like Luther (Eddie Griffin) said in The New Guy (i'll clean this up a bit) "prison is a lot like high school. The love you want....you ain't gettin....the love you're gettin......you don't want"

Adam

[meanjoe]

I think there is more to the story than is being told.

I'd like to wait for Mathew to come give his report.

Basically there were decisions to be made, and compromises were chosen. We were told ANY charge made would revoke his parole in Williamson County, which should lead to atleast a year in prison. He was also sentenced to pay Mathew $$ for his window and for the three of us missing work. If he doesn't pay this, they said he would spend a year in jail. Hopefully he pays the $$, but if not, hopefully he sits in jail as well, while dreaming of the spandex clad men that put him there. :big_grin:

I guess i was being a little unfair to the Po Po by leaving this out. I was hoping Mathew would have chimed in with it. IMHO at the end of the day they didn't want to pursue the felony and i think they just didn't want to do the work or maybe they knew the perp. oh well. It doesn't matter now. I'm sure he'll wind up in the clink one way or another.

Adam

[RMB_mike]

i think they just didn't want to do the work...
Adam

Maybe it's just me, but I thought that it was the police's job to Protect and Serve. God forbid they actually do their job and hammer this guy like they should. It's comforting to know that this guy will be out of jail earlier than he should be just because Barney Fife and Deputy Dawg down at Maury Co. didn't feel like doing the work. Lovely.

[Motobacon]

Sorry it took me so long to post, but I have been a bit busy. To be honest I could have pursued a felony attempted robbery charge, but the DA said that it would take 6 to 8 months to get it all settled and figured out. He also expressed it would not make that much difference. So, I decided to go ahead and agreed to a Class A misdemeanor (which is the highest form of misdemeanor) and be done with it. I know this seems like the easy way out, but I did and do not want to drive out to Maury Co. multiple times to fight squiggy the car robber. I was true that the DA and the officer were unaware of the parole thing and that shocked me! :eek:

I realize that I probably did not fulfill my complete civil duty by agreeing to the lesser charge, but being a teacher, student, husband, and cyclist, my time is limited as it is. Sorry if I have disappointed anyone :cry2: , but the car is fixed and I am out $600 and the last thing I wanted to do is invest even more time. :mad:

I do have some great news though :thumb: . I have been in continual contact with the editor of DirtRag magazine and she has expressed that she would like to use the story in the letter to the editor section of the magazine. She was very interested in the pictures, but it seems that they are not at a high enough resolution to use.

[meanjoe]

Cool news about the dirt rag. I wasn't planning on renewing my subscription but i guess i better now. :big_grin:

BTW, i think you did the right thing. I'm glad we don't have to drive down there for that crap. It's like continuing to be victimized by shelling out gas money and missing work.

Oh yeah, thanks for lunch. totally not necessary but i appreciated it.

Adam

[Chewieez]

I agree with Adam about your decision Mathew. I think given the situation and all the choices you had (all 2 of them), you chose the correct one and the one best for you. I appreciate you thinking of Adam and I as well when making your decision. Sure, in a perfect world, we'd see this all the way to fruition, but at what cost to us?

I just hope you see the money he owes you! I'm bummed that I had to miss lunch and jet to work, but it was good that I did. It all worked out well with the guy who covered for me at work, but it was nice to get there before lunch and take over.

That is awesome news about Dirt Rag! I can't wait for it to come out. Is she going to use the story you emailed her originally or does she want to you to write another? Too bad those pics we have won't work. We could be famous!!

[RedFSR]

RMB_mike, don't take this as a personal attack but based on your posts I feel the need to educate you a little on how the criminal justice system works. The police at the local level make arrests and present cases to the DA for prosecution. The police can arrest people all day and night and if the DA decides not to prosecute the cases or agrees to a plea deal that offers a light sentence, you can't blame the police.

It is the job of the entire criminal justice system to protect and serve the public. Too many times, judges and DAs aren't held accountable and the police take the unnecessary blame.

This obviously doesn't apply in this case because the victim feels like the right decision was made.

By the way, it is up to the parole officer to file a motion to revoke the guy's parole.

[RMB_mike]

RMB_mike, don't take this as a personal attack but based on your posts I feel the need to educate you a little on how the criminal justice system works. The police at the local level make arrests and present cases to the DA for prosecution. The police can arrest people all day and night and if the DA decides not to prosecute the cases or agrees to a plea deal that offers a light sentence, you can't blame the police.

It is the job of the entire criminal justice system to protect and serve the public. Too many times, judges and DAs aren't held accountable and the police take the unnecessary blame.

This obviously doesn't apply in this case because the victim feels like the right decision was made.

By the way, it is up to the parole officer to file a motion to revoke the guy's parole.


It's cool. I didn't take it as one. The Reno 911 pic was just a joke. The second one was a response to meanjoe's comment. That was more or less a joke as well, except if he was actually serious about the po-po not doing their work, which I don't think that was the case. If it was a case of them not doing their work, and not because of the DA, then it would be a disappointment.
I feel police officers have a hard enough job as it is and I have quite a bit of respect for them.
It was also posted before Matthew's. Once I read his post, given his circumstances and what not, he did do the right thing.