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    Knee surgery today

    Got arthroscopic surgery today. Torn meniscus . But dr. Found Gout-like crystals on back of patella and other places as we'll. he only talked to my wife, since I was pretty much out of it. Also, have worn away cartilage on ends of Femur and Tibia on the outside (osteoarthritis) that he could see on X-ray and MRI, so no surprise there. Hope to be able get back to some riding eventually. Will have more info next week when discuss with doc during follow-up and stitches out.
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    Glad everything went well. Hope you get back into shape soon.
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    Went thru six of them, three for meniscus; three for cartilage repair; Stuart Smith at Tenn Ortho Alliance did partial replacements in both knees about four years back; not a problem with the knees since, but old age slowing the pace, although I still ride and work trails nearly every day. . My wear and tear was on the inside, allowing the partials; John Bruno kept me going for years before he retired and recommended Smith. Good luck Bob.

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    Well, here's to a speedy recovery then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bud View Post
    Went thru six of them, three for meniscus; three for cartilage repair; Stuart Smith at Tenn Ortho Alliance did partial replacements in both knees about four years back; not a problem with the knees since, but old age slowing the pace, although I still ride and work trails nearly every day. . My wear and tear was on the inside, allowing the partials; John Bruno kept me going for years before he retired and recommended Smith. Good luck Bob.
    Bruno did my bicep tendon repair just before his retirement. Great dr. What is a partial replacement? My dr. This time is Pagnani. Has operated on my knee before about 10 yrs ago.
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    Stopped pain meds today and working on regaining range of motion. That hurts. But just walking does already feel better than before the surgery.
    Worried about the gout-like crystals that Doc found. Reading about gout. Sounds like it could be serious.
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    Don't read too much about anything on the internet. It will scare the he** out of you. Just get back your range of motion and start riding again. You can do most anything when you really put your mind to it. You'll be back out there soon.
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    Just saw this Bob! Sorry you had to go through it and hope you recover as quickly as possible.

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    Hang in there man!!! I had knee surgery September 3rd (mcl) I had never had surgery before and I can't stand sitting still, so it sucked. I got pretty discouraged to say the least. I got off the meds after two days. I hate pills! I just used loads of ice, way more than recommend . Ordered myself a stretch strap online, great investment bout $12. Started out riding around the block. Moved up to riding Shelby bottoms (nice and flat). I was the pissed off guy parked at each bench resting. Took a cool pack in a hydro pack and would use it when I stopped. Got progressively better, but still a lot of pain. Keep it moving, but don't over do it. Last week was my first time since my surgery to mountain bike. Went and rode the tanasi trail system. I was able to pull all the hills, but at a much slower pace. I'm back up to bout 45 miles on the road bike, but about 4-5 mph off where I should be. I'm just now starting to see the light. The only thing that's really slacking is running. I can jog a little, but no soccer with my son yet, although that's getting better as well. Hope this helps, just don't give up, never give up!!!

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    Stretch out strap; OPTP: www.optp.com
    800-367-7393; this is the one I started using at the beginning of therapy, so I ordered one. I use it daily and don't know why, for the life of me, I haven't been stretching more all the time. It's the first thing kids do ( when they wake up) every moring. Makes a huge difference. The strap comes with a whole book, of stretches.

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    Bob, I have no gout that you will be back up and riding soon.

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    Hoping for a fast recovery for you Bob. I know you will be a model patient and your great level of fitness will help you to a speedy recovery. Let me know when you are ready to get back on the bike. I'll be recovering from a lack of riding. We can get back in shape together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintercreeper View Post
    Stretch out strap; OPTP: www.optp.com
    800-367-7393; this is the one I started using at the beginning of therapy, so I ordered one. I use it daily and don't know why, for the life of me, I haven't been stretching more all the time. It's the first thing kids do ( when they wake up) every moring. Makes a huge difference. The strap comes with a whole book, of stretches.
    I used one yesterday at PT. Nice device. Thought about making one.
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    Winter creeper, what type injury & surgery? Appreciate u sharing your experience.
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    Saw Doc today. He thinks crystals are calcium, not urate. So he thinks more likely pseudo gout. Gout, he said almost always strikes first in the foot. Only rarely the knees. I guess good news but not known what causes pseudo gout and no treatment. Doc found messed up meniscus with lots of calcium covering everything. Some obvious bare bone (osteoarthritis) places that will continue to cause pain. He said that there was so much messed up that it will take my knee longer than usual to recover from swelling and trauma. Like 6 wks elevate as often as possible vs most patients needing like 2-3 weeks.
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    Well some good news I suppose. Are they going to put you on a reduced calcium diet? Do you eat a lot of dairy? It is odd they were in your knee. Usually with too much calcium you will end up with bone spurs in your feet, I guess similar to gout. But Robert is right it seems like medicine changes every year in terms of causes and effects.
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    Knee surgery today

    Psuedogout (fancy term: Calcium Pyrophosphate Crystal Deposition Disease) is not as well understood as gout is because there are multiple reasons to have deposits of these crystals. The basic thought is it is a combination of the normal aging process along with something that causes more calcification of the tissues, such as injury or sometimes other genetic medical conditions. The most common risk factors for having it are previous surgeries and trauma to or overuse of the joints. A low calcium diet wouldn't affect it. I hope you have a speedy recovery, definitely don't push it and once you're back to using it more it should be easier to see what symptoms are related to osteoarthritis and which are related to pseudogout. Personally (without really knowing much about your case) I would say the osteoarthritis caused more irritation around the knee which led to the calcium crystals, not the other way around.

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    Pseudogout - I'm going to start using that in sentences. Bob! Praying for a quick recovery for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kindacreeky View Post
    Winter creeper, what type injury & surgery? Appreciate u sharing your experience.
    I tore my mcl and meniscus in a triathlon. I was running on a trail, went down a hill and turned a curve with my body, but my knee stayed strait. Loud Pop! I was having swelling before, so I think the meniscus was already torn. The doctor said I had loads of arthridus and little bits floating around in my knee. I could see it all on the mri. I was having to ice my knee after riding, before my surgery, but I dont have to now. I never go to the doctor, or have had any other surgery or health problems. I think if I would have gone to the doctor earlier, I would not have had such a serious injury. My knee was already weak and I just pushed it too far. I've been really rough on my knees, so I knew I had arthridus and pretty much just self diagnosed it as being that. Lesson learned. I was pretty depressed with the recovery time, because you see all the football players rush back into the game. I have now come to the conclusion, that they are much younger than me, and have a full time job of recovering. It does get better, trust me. I thought I was really done a couple weeks after the surgery. Then I decided I was tougher than that, and practiced what I preach to my kids. I'd be outside splitting wood with my crutches leaned up by a tree. Just have to listen to your body and know your limitations. Your knee will definately let you know when it needs a rest. After you get that first full rotation on the bike, it's on! I would let my good leg do all the work, and just kind of let the other do the motions, while riding around the block. No hills though, and stay in granny gear. By the way, I was told not to be riding, so I just didn't tell them. Just dont over do it, and listen to your body, and it will be fine. I had just heard so many stories, of people sitting around too long and never regaining full motion. I have full motion now, just working on the strength. I wish you a speedy recovery brother! None of this may work for you, but it did help me, if nothing else, improving my cycling, day by day,was a big mental boost.
    Now the stratch strap. I started out trying to make one. I found if difficult to do the stitching. I really didn't have a needle that was industrial enough to go through the material without bending. I finally looked on line and saw they were only $12-$15 and said screw this crap! You may have more patience than me LOL! Hope this helps. I'm no doctor or expert, to say the least, but more than happy to help out in any way I can. Good Luck!!

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